younger with older

[maverick311]

do you think that it is a good thing that there are a lot of younger guys who would prefer to be with older men..

and do you think that older men would prefer younger to keep their youth.. or ???

would love to hear a few opinions...

[Tucan]

do you think that it is a good thing that there are a lot of younger guys who would prefer to be with older men..

and do you think that older men would prefer younger to keep their youth.. or ???

would love to hear a few opinions...

Only in your fantasies dude...I have no desire to be with some old guy...gives me the creeps...sure hope you dont act on those misguided thoughts...we have enough of those kind out there.

[maverick311]

Only in your fantasies dude...I have no desire to be with some old guy...gives me the creeps...sure hope you dont act on those misguided thoughts...we have enough of those kind out there.

well my friend.. you need to look at reality.. I am not refering to underage at all..
I am talking about full adult status..

KIDS.. are kids.. NOT younger men..
I would never want to be with a kid..

I believe that I am refering to in MOST areas.. 18+ ..

[gogorama]

In Brazil and Crotia age of consent in 14. The average age of consent worldwide is 16. I doubt one would consider Brazil a nation of pedophiles. Just the same leaving the underage kids and puberty issue aside why wouldn't one want to be with a younger guy? Young people are always with young people and groan at the thought of dating "older" people. That's because youth have more energy and more spunk. They have the look of youth vitality. Most of the great artists painted youth or versions and visions of youth.

I think we need to stop this kind of negativity that surround what is normal human sexual attraction and stop hiding it or denying it because it eats you up inside. We need to have a serious dialogue about human sexuality and what it means to be human. So we can curb the ageism and sexism and even racism that runs rampant in this country. Love should never be defined by a law it should be defined by ones own feelings plan and simple.

Abraham Lincoln said, "I do good. I Feel good. I do Bad I feel bad. That is my religion." That is my religion too.

[jjallrm]

In Brazil and Crotia age of consent in 14. The average age of consent worldwide is 16. I doubt one would consider Brazil a nation of pedophiles. Just the same leaving the underage kids and puberty issue aside why wouldn't one want to be with a younger guy? Young people are always with young people and groan at the thought of dating "older" people. That's because youth have more energy and more spunk. They have the look of youth vitality. Most of the great artists painted youth or versions and visions of youth.

I think we need to stop this kind of negativity that surround what is normal human sexual attraction and stop hiding it or denying it because it eats you up inside. We need to have a serious dialogue about human sexuality and what it means to be human. So we can curb the ageism and sexism and even racism that runs rampant in this country. Love should never be defined by a law it should be defined by ones own feelings plan and simple.

Abraham Lincoln said, "I do good. I Feel good. I do Bad I feel bad. That is my religion." That is my religion too.

I have to agree with what is said above....no one is saying going after young kids, but young men who are old enough and mature enough to make this decision on their own so be able to do so. And what do you consider old? Is someone in their 30's dating/looking at someone in their lower 20's wrong? Who decides this for them? Should they be able to make that decision on their own?

I am in my late 30's, don't think that I am that unattractive, and I don't think I act like I am closer to 40 then 20, but maybe I do.....is it wrong to find a 23 year old attractive or be interested in dating someone around that age? I would hope not, but I am sure there will always be those whose only answer is "you need to stay within your own age group to date or soemthing is wrong with you."

[Agent7]

Tucan seems to have something against ever one around here so dont fell bad.

[Brandon]

do you think that it is a good thing that there are a lot of younger guys who would prefer to be with older men..

and do you think that older men would prefer younger to keep their youth.. or ???

would love to hear a few opinions...

No, I 100% don't think that young guys should be with old(er) guys. And I know there are a few, but not a lot.

Older guys who choose younger guys are just pedophiles in my point of view. It is way more (and different) then to keep their youth. So, no.

[convaircrazy]

It's really a matter of taste...some younger guys LIKE older guys and vice versa...live and let live, as long as it's consensual and legal.

[maverick311]

It's really a matter of taste...some younger guys LIKE older guys and vice versa...live and let live, as long as it's consensual and legal.

thanks for your input.. I guess its all a matter of who people are.. as I tried to say before.. I am not a pedo.. I prefer guys who are of age.. and consentual.. Please bare that in mind when you say what you say..
I am not looking for little kids.. I am refering to older boys and older men..

thanks

[maverick311]

thank you for your reply.. I tend to agree with you..
and i hope that more will see our point of view.. I dont mean they have to agree with it.. but accept it as a valid argument..

thanks again

[maverick311]

thanks for your opinion.. its valued.. however as you can see in this thread.. seems to be the opposing opinion..
but you are entitled to your opinion like the rest of us so.. thanks again

[Tucan]

Tucan seems to have something against ever one around here so dont fell bad.

I dont have something against everyone around here..just pedophiles. Plain and simple. Dont be so narrow minded Agent7...and i might point out that member "Brandon" shares my opinion on this matter... btw, i'm not the one editing peoples opinions on here.

[tealc007]

It is cool that younger guys want to be with older guys but how young with how old are refering too?

[tealc007]

wow wait till Brandon gets older and he wants to be with an attractive younger guy then he'll remember this.

[tealc007]

I see your point of view and I understand and agree with every one who fills the same way.

[Agent7]

When I think of older guys being with younger guys I think of 17/18 being with 13/14/15.. 24 is the max.. I dont think any one over 25 should be with any one under 20... its just werid.. and kinda sick.

[maverick311]

It is cool that younger guys want to be with older guys but how young with how old are refering too?

I am refering to younger as in 18+ .. who know what they are doing..

NOT INTO KIDS>>

[maverick311]

When I think of older guys being with younger guys I think of 17/18 being with 13/14/15.. 24 is the max.. I dont think any one over 25 should be with any one under 20... its just werid.. and kinda sick.

I guess you have never experienced it .. so you would not know..
but there are younger guys who really do want to be with older.. and I do mean over 18 and
but each to their own opinion..

YOU have yours and I have mine I guess.

and what is "kinda sick" to you.. may be something a younger guy wants to do..
so each to their own i guess..
you have a right to your opinion.. and so do I..


good luck when you get older..

[BigMike513]

Agent7: This is an older guy talking here. When I was a teenager, anyone over 20 had one foot in the grave. The older you get, the farther away "old age" gets! Age differences diminish as people learn to appreciate a person for who and what they are, not just sexual attraction between two hot bodies. I do know several gay couples in LTRs where the age difference is greater than ten years. One man I used to work with met his partner when he was 21, and the partner was 34. They're still together today.
How is it weird/sick if a younger guy enjoys the company (and sex) of an older guy in a consensual relationship, whatever form that relationship takes, whether casual fuckbuddy or LTR? We come in all shapes, sizes,and opinions here. I'll respect yours but do not understand or agree with your reasoning. Sex was not invented by your generation, nor by mine. Older people still participate in it today! And while you may not want to see it or hear about it, it is NOT "weird or sick" ! I'll second Maverick311's opinion that when you get older, your opinion on this subject may change. If it doesn't, I'd love to talk to you again and find out why!
All the best to you,
BigMike513

[maverick311]

Agent7: This is an older guy talking here. When I was a teenager, anyone over 20 had one foot in the grave. The older you get, the farther away "old age" gets! Age differences diminish as people learn to appreciate a person for who and what they are, not just sexual attraction between two hot bodies. I do know several gay couples in LTRs where the age difference is greater than ten years. One man I used to work with met his partner when he was 21, and the partner was 34. They're still together today.
How is it weird/sick if a younger guy enjoys the company (and sex) of an older guy in a consensual relationship, whatever form that relationship takes, whether casual fuckbuddy or LTR? We come in all shapes, sizes,and opinions here. I'll respect yours but do not understand or agree with your reasoning. Sex was not invented by your generation, nor by mine. Older people still participate in it today! And while you may not want to see it or hear about it, it is NOT "weird or sick" ! I'll second Maverick311's opinion that when you get older, your opinion on this subject may change. If it doesn't, I'd love to talk to you again and find out why!
All the best to you,
BigMike513

thanks BigMike513 .. you echo my thoughts exactly.. thanks for YOUR opinion

[Agent7]

Everone is allowed to think/say/do what they want... I am just voiceing my thoughs

[maverick311]

No, I 100% don't think that young guys should be with old(er) guys. And I know there are a few, but not a lot.

Older guys who choose younger guys are just pedophiles in my point of view. It is way more (and different) then to keep their youth. So, no.


Well Brandon.. I think you need to do some research.. YOU are accusing someone of being a pedophile.. when you dont even know them..

NOT all older people who prefer younger are classed as pedofiles.. now.. if they are into underage younger people you might say that would be so..

now a 50 year old who is interested in a 35 year old in YOUR words is a pedophile.. and then a 30 year old who is interested in a 25 year old is a pedo..

think about it..

Maverick311

[mklip124]

i love younger guys, im 20 and love 15+. there so young, smooth and hot

[stangee]

This is a great post. The question is a valid one and I think deserves honest answers from people mature enough to comment of the subject.

I guess I fit in the catagory of the older men. My last boyfriend was 18 when we met, he sort me out and made the first contact, and over the years we became very close. I use to ask him why he perferred older men to guys his own age. His comments or reply was then as it is today, guys his age are immature and don't offer him the security of a real romance. He's 21 years old now and we are closer today than ever.

Being with a younger guy doesn't capture and hold your youth, you don't revert back to an age more comparable to the guy you are with. Some men enjoy the company of younger men, its exciting watching younger guys act and react to situations. They are not set in their ways and most are eager to learn.

An older guy have more to offer a relationship, and its not all about sex, its about love, and understanding, and the companionship, and the younger guys who prefer older men know that they have him to themselves, the older guy does't stray or cheat with your best friend. They are not in constant competition for the mirror.

I've been witness to younger guys trying to hit on my boyfriend when we go out, his reaction is classic, if they won't leave him alone, after awhile he'll ask them what can they offer him that he doesn't already have? Tell tells them he's happy with who he have as a boyfriend, a lover, they finally get the hint a leave him alone.

For all the guys out there that frown on the idea that a younger and older guy can be lovers, remember this, keep living, you will be old one day, and all this stuff you are doing now, and saying now will come back to bite you in the ass, when you see a young guy you want to be with and he eject you. Remember what you are doing and saying now. Life and fate have a very bad habit of paying us back for the the things we do in our lives.

Its your choice to be with who ever you want, and do what ever you will, but don't try to stop or change anyone else's mind about who they want to share their lives with. Younger and Older guys do habitate together and they last longer than guys the same age.

Love whoever you want and live your life to suit you, for in the end, it's you that's got to be happy. If you want to love and older guy, then do so, if you are an older guy who want to build a life with a younger guy, then do it. The heart knows no age.

[BigMike513]

[QUOTE=stangee;968]This is a great post. The question is a valid one and I think deserves honest answers from people mature enough to comment of the subject. . . . .



"For all the guys out there that frown on the idea that a younger and older guy can be lovers, remember this, keep living, you will be old one day, and all this stuff you are doing now, and saying now will come back to bite you in the ass, when you see a young guy you want to be with and he eject you. Remember what you are doing and saying now. Life and fate have a very bad habit of paying us back for the the things we do in our lives." . . ..

Amen, stangee! I would add to your comments for the younger crowd, that if an older guy (however you define "old") checking you out gives you the creeps, then get used to it; rest assured that there are many, MANY more dudes of ALL ages looking at you and appreciating your body than you will EVER be aware of! Given a chance to speak with you beyond "hey,' we would love to know what you're thinking, how you feel about your world, and what prompted you to dye your hair purple!

I don't want this to sound like a rant, so will end it here. I'm an older guy who loves looking at dudes of all ages ( and yeah, those older teens and twentysomethings are cute as hell!)

[pipeorgan89]

Hi. I'm new here, and I'd be happy to share my thoughts about this topic. I'm 18, male, and gay, FWIW.

There certainly are older guys who wish to be with younger guys. The same is true in the straight community -- many middle-aged men enjoy looking at young women in magazines like Playboy and Penthouse, etc., and the roots of the saying "that's the thing I love about high school girls -- I keep getting older, they stay the same age" are rather self-evident here.

HOWEVER, I don't think there's a lot of reciprocation with this (younger guys who want to be with older guys). Sure, there's some. There are also some people who like to have sex with dogs and goats. Both are certainly minorities. All the high-school and college age folks I've met -- male and female -- want to have sex with people their own age, not people old enough to be their parents or grandparents. Most people, myself included, are grossed out by that thought.

It's certainly true that everyone has their own tastes -- not everyone is attracted to the same things -- but there is a norm/majority. Most people prefer folks who are younger (late teens/20s/early 30s), fit, cute/sexy, etc. -- not folks who are old, fat, pasty, wrinkled, bald, covered in liver spots, etc. And much as people who are old and fat may think that that's unfair, it's just reality, and life never has been nor ever can or will be fair. You can't choose who you're attracted to, and the general image of beauty is pretty widely-shared. As an example: ask 100 folks off the street to picture a hot magazine-cover bod. They're going to say things like "tanned", "6-pack abs", "muscular", "athletic", 'fit", "young", etc -- not "belly flab", "hairy liver spots", "AARP card", etc.

It's understandable that older folks are attracted to younger folks. I would imagine that when I'm old, I'll still think fit college-age guys are far hotter than fat old men. However, as I said, I don't think there are nearly as many young folks attracted to old folks, as vice versa. I think horny/lonely old men, in discussions like this one, exaggerate the percentage of young guys attracted to old men. Just because you want there to be a lot of hot young guys attracted to you, doesn't mean there are. Just because you say over and over -- insist, speak with forceful words and excess modifier adverbs like 'very', etc. -- that there are lots of young guys attracted to old guys...that doesn't make it true. And hot young people do NOT have some sort of responsibility to provide sexual equality for fat and/or old people. We're not obligated to make you feel better about the fact that you're old and/or fat, and therefore widely considered sexually unappealing. That's just too bad for you. If someone wants to have sex with you, great. If they don't, they don't. Again, life never has been nor ever can or will be fair.

Ultimately, too, old folks who are attracted to young folks need to follow the base expectation -- if someone doesn't reciprocate your feelings, that's the end. Like if you're gay and have a crush on someone who's straight, that's the end -- there's no way around that impasse. If you're old and attracted to a young person, and they're not attracted to you, then that's the end. "No" means NO, and you have absolutely no right to pursue it further.

In addition, I would like to briefly state that I strongly disagree with the notion that there's something wrong with thinking that old men crushing on young guys is gross/sick/pedophilic/etc. I personally happen to believe that, and I'm not ashamed to say it. I disagree with the notion that I'm somehow a bad and/or closed-minded and/or hateful person, just because I don't accept everyone and all points of view. That's an ideal which is impossible to achieve, and I think it's rather misguided. We all have opinions on things, and if we want our opinions respected by others then we need to respect their opinions in return. If you're going to say that you're an open-minded person, then you need to be open-minded to EVERYONE -- including people who you consider closed-minded. You can't hold a double-standard, if you expect to have any shred of credibility and to be taken seriously. So I'm entitled to hold and to express my opinion that it's disgusting for old men to go after young guys for sex, just as you're entitled to hold and express your opinion that it's not. And I refuse to be shamed into silence about my opinion, on the misguided grounds that it's somehow closed-minded. My opinion is not less-sophisticated or less-evolved or less-enlightened than yours, just because you disagree with it. That's the whole definition of an "opinion". There is no "right" or "wrong", just a personal gut feeling. And to everyone else who has run into this same issue, remember this: if someone tries to tear down your opinion, it's because they don't want it standing, because they're scared of it. They feel it threatens their own opinion. The more they fight against it, the more scared they are that there's some truth in it. Remember that no one's opinion is better than anyone else's -- that's what makes it an opinion.

Over and out.

[maverick311]

I am sure glad that we are getting the reactions that I had expected.. its a valid thought for sure.. and each and every one of us has an opinion and that is to be respected..
thank you so much all of you for your reactions..

being an older guy that likes younger guys and have had a relationship with a younger guys I can tell you that it works completely both way..

there are many younger guys who are into older for the maturity level etc.. and many younger guys who would not want to be with their "father" etc..

However as you can see from the posts.. there are many different positions to this question and we all have to just respect each others opinions and go with the flow..

I know that I prefer the younger set.. but I also want to be with someone younger that PREFERS to be with older.. seems to work better..

as a older many I would NEVER go for under age people.. I prefer a guy who knows where he is sexually and where he wants to be.. IF that younger person prefers his own age then I must respect that as well.. but I find that anyone that would say that its gross has never had the opportunity to be with someone that they might love.. but I do respect it ..

the old saying.. TRY IT if you like it.. and go back if you still do applys here..

DONT KNOCK IT TILL YOU TRY IT.. and DONT KNOW THEM THAT DO..

thanks again people.. I do appreciate your input here.. and hope that we call all respect eather others opinions and likes and dislikes..

thanks again..

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[Agent7]

say it like it is mav!!!

[saggINit]

well as long as people r the legal age and r into older dudes or vice versa then let it's all good, "LEGAL" being the operative word here..

[maverick311]

well as long as people r the legal age and r into older dudes or vice versa then let it's all good, "LEGAL" being the operative word here..

I think that most of the conversation here has been about LEGAl age for sure..

most of us who are into younger MEN.. are refering to legal ones..

I am sure there are other ones out there.. WHICH I DONT AGREE WITH.. but i am sure they are there..

My question was regarding legal age younger guys for sure..

Maverick311

[acam]

Well as I'm 73 I guess nearly everyone is younger! lol Not that I am looking for a partner - I have one. But when I was 21 I had sex with people who were 35 or so and it didn't seem gross to me. But I have to admit that if a young man told me he found me attractive I'd doubt him and wonder whether he was after something.

[jcroce1994]

do you think that it is a good thing that there are a lot of younger guys who would prefer to be with older men..

and do you think that older men would prefer younger to keep their youth.. or ???

Speaking as an older guy myself, I find that younger guys come looking for me, not the other way around. I'm always surprised by guys under 25 who find me attractive. And I do prefer younger guys, so I'm NOT complaining.

Older guys are more stable emotionally, financially, socially. We have houses, cars, sometimes a bit of money. And we tend to be more accepting than younger guys. Not as judgemental. So young guys who feel insecure or alone or rejected by guys their own age, look to an older guy for security. It's not always about sex or appearance. Sometimes it's just about needing to be loved and appreciated. And for that, age really doesn't matter.

[maverick311]

Speaking as an older guy myself, I find that younger guys come looking for me, not the other way around. I'm always surprised by guys under 25 who find me attractive. And I do prefer younger guys, so I'm NOT complaining.

Older guys are more stable emotionally, financially, socially. We have houses, cars, sometimes a bit of money. And we tend to be more accepting than younger guys. Not as judgemental. So young guys who feel insecure or alone or rejected by guys their own age, look to an older guy for security. It's not always about sex or appearance. Sometimes it's just about needing to be loved and appreciated. And for that, age really doesn't matter.

thats the way to say it.. and so true.. thanks for your input..

[ctfitman]

I personally find that I certainly feel younger when mixing it up with younger guys and have no problem with relationships between fairly big age gaps. I am presently dating a guy who is plenty younger (above 18) than I am, but I am careful not to push him into doing anything he doesn't want to do. But I find that he is often the driving force in the relationship and he doesn't want to date guys his own age.

So, I guess it take all types, and to each his own. Only judge what you understand or have experienced yourself.

[maverick311]

I personally find that I certainly feel younger when mixing it up with younger guys and have no problem with relationships between fairly big age gaps. I am presently dating a guy who is plenty younger (above 18) than I am, but I am careful not to push him into doing anything he doesn't want to do. But I find that he is often the driving force in the relationship and he doesn't want to date guys his own age.

So, I guess it take all types, and to each his own. Only judge what you understand or have experienced yourself.

thanks for your input.. I happen to agree with you..

[onno_algarve]

Think has all to do with respect, in whatever relationship. As long nobody gets hurt and both get what they want. Hey, isn't it a good feeling to share life experience with somebody who's younger and see him learning of that?

[jace]

No, I 100% don't think that young guys should be with old(er) guys. And I know there are a few, but not a lot.

Older guys who choose younger guys are just pedophiles in my point of view. It is way more (and different) then to keep their youth. So, no.


Geesh, we need to get the peeps who hate gays in here to clean up this mess. They will not only think a younger guy with an older guy is sick and repulsive, but a man with another man totally wrong and it should be illegal.

The logic and wording some of these younger guys are using, sounds really familiar to the religious rights crapolla against gays. Do we want to start having laws to say a younger guy should not be able to have a relationship with an older guy? where do we start? A 99 year old can not date a 70 year old?

This could suck, if we would think this through, we would have laws against older and younger hetros too, anna nicole's fame would not have exploded........we woulda missed all that fun

New topic: should we stop a presidential hopeful from picking a younger vp?

[BigMike513]

Geesh, we need to get the peeps who hate gays in here to clean up this mess. They will not only think a younger guy with an older guy is sick and repulsive, but a man with another man totally wrong and it should be illegal.

The logic and wording some of these younger guys are using, sounds really familiar to the religious rights crapolla against gays. Do we want to start having laws to say a younger guy should not be able to have a relationship with an older guy? where do we start? A 99 year old can not date a 70 year old?

This could suck, if we would think this through, we would have laws against older and younger hetros too, anna nicole's fame would not have exploded........we woulda missed all that fun

New topic: should we stop a presidential hopeful from picking a younger vp?

Your next to last paragraph says something, Jace. When the same rules apply to the heteros among us, I'll think about listening to the older/younger arguments! I see it as mainly a generational thing,one in which personal preference (NOBODY ELSES'S BUSINESS!!!) is the largest factor. Who are we to condemn someone for who they love, or desire to spend the rest of their lives with? When I was 14, I was lusting after the college crowd, and even one of my dad's friends! No, nothing ever happened, and yeah, it was hormones running wild. . .but I've known for a fact since I was 5 that I liked looking at older guys better than boys my own age. I've had experiences with younger dudes, and that's fine and was a lot of fun. At what point do we quit worrying about who's fucking who??? If an 18 year old dude wants to be with a 30+ guy, who cares? People will assume that the older guy put the make on the younger guy and seduced him, but I know for a fact that it works the other way, too!

And to Brandon, I respect your opinion and your right to express it here. But please don't issue a blanket condemnation on those couples who have found happiness with someone who is younger/older by several or more years. This is just ONE factor in developing a relationship. . .and a minor one at that, if everything else is perfection!

Peace to all who read this.