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Under another topic there was speculation that feminists would want toclose these pages. Why on earth would they. Guys admiring each others, perhaps getting hard. That is in no way anti feminism. Generally feminism is good for guys, especially gay guys. Only men that should be frightened are rapists, those fond of sexual hasassment and perhaps some bible thumpers

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You know, we live on a planet where 1 billion people believe in fairy tales (aka the bible) that emphasize how females are are inferior to men.

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It's more complex than that, massively in fact. If you want to step out of your comfort-zone and challenge your perception of reality, then watch the following with an entirely open-mind.

(Ignore the article the video is part of, the liberal-obsessed BBC would only put an interview like this into an article that makes him look bad.

Once again, don't bother watching if you think anything that offends you must be wrong. Homosexuals used to offend people and they were killed for being that way, now we know different.

Second video down, the title below video reads: 'Alt-right is unstoppable,' says Milo Yiannopoulos'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40915356

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4 hours ago, SBJB said:

It's more complex than that, massively in fact. If you want to step out of your comfort-zone and challenge your perception of reality, then watch the following with an entirely open-mind.

(Ignore the article the video is part of, the liberal-obsessed BBC would only put an interview like this into an article that makes him look bad.

Once again, don't bother watching if you think anything that offends you must be wrong. Homosexuals used to offend people and they were killed for being that way, now we know different.

Second video down, the title below video reads: 'Alt-right is unstoppable,' says Milo Yiannopoulos'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40915356

Don't bring Milo Yiannopolus around here, we don't want him.

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Of course 'feminism' is a very wide umbrella and there are all kinds feminist theorists and activists, from upper class transphobes to third world lesbians. Simlarly there is gay men from facist, pedophilia supporting, misogynist trumpists like Yiannopoulos to feminist oriented LGBTIQ anarchists. Saggers, gay saggers, can also be politically anything, but these pages are, in my opinion, happily apolitical, really quite innocent, based on erotic and estethics. Nothing pro nor anti feminism.

My view on feminism is based on reading some classics like Butler and every day contact with feminists who strongly support 'gay rights.' Then there is public figures like Canadian priminister Justin Trudeau declaring themselves feminits as a matter of course.

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Okay, so I'm confused. You believe that there is more than one type of feminism, despite there being only one name for all of them. This of course is what causes misunderstandings with what feminism and many other things are in life. Yet, you titled the thread simply 'feminism' and spoke of only one type. I then replied to you and you've chosen not to respond to it, you instead elaborated on your original post, why not just do that to begin with?

You don't have to agree with what he said in the video to understand it.

What does the speculation (that feminists would close this site) spark inside of you? If someone speculated that this site may close because aliens will invade the planet and ban it, it's a fair bet that you wouldn't start a thread to discuss the merit in it. So clearly you aren't 100% sure in what you perceive feminism to be about at its core.

The answer to your original question is clear to see, if you can't see it then me giving it to you won't make it any clearer. I wouldn't attempt to explain complex maths to someone who couldn't yet count to 10, I'll do the same here with feminism. Are you looking to defend what you believe in or learn something new that may shake your foundations? Take yourself on a journey of self-discovery, most of these answers lie within.

(Hopefully that doesn't sound patronising or offensive, not my intention at all)

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22 minutes ago, SBJB said:

If someone speculated that this site may close because aliens will invade the planet and ban it, it's a fair bet that you wouldn't start a thread to discuss the merit in it. 

Aliens are more than welcome to explore the site and/or register to become part of this community.

Option is there... Out there somewhere :P 

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On 08/12/2017 at 11:53 PM, saggin said:

Don't bring Milo Yiannopolus around here, we don't want him.

I do. Feminism in its current form is cancer and is nowhere close to being what it actually was for the eternities of the equal rights movement. Modern feminism is pro-Sharia Law, oddly enough, and never gets anywhere except into triggered hysterics that degrade into nothing more than name calling and "ism" attacks in an attempt to win an argument without facts...

 

Sorry darling, but Milo is right.

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5 minutes ago, SaggerTwinkLover said:

I do. Feminism in its current form is cancer and is nowhere close to being what it actually was for the eternities of the equal rights movement. Modern feminism is pro-Sharia Law, oddly enough, and never gets anywhere except into triggered hysterics that degrade into nothing more than name calling and "ism" attacks in an attempt to win an argument without facts...

 

Sorry darling, but Milo is right.

I could not care less how many stupid misandrists keep appropriating the term "feminist" and spouting hateful bullS*** on the internet, it doesn't mean we need homophobic, alt-right, pedophilia apologists getting a platform to voice opposing descrimination. Guess what that gets you, NOTHING! We just end up with a bunch of tiny groups of assholes screaming opposing hate speech at everyone else.

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12 minutes ago, saggin said:

I could not care less how many stupid misandrists keep appropriating the term "feminist" and spouting hateful bullS*** on the internet, it doesn't mean we need homophobic, alt-right, pedophilia apologists getting a platform to voice opposing descrimination. Guess what that gets you, NOTHING! We just end up with a bunch of tiny groups of assholes screaming opposing hate speech at everyone else.

You clearly don't know much about Milo then... He's not a homophobe (pssst he's gay and married to a man), he's not alt-right (presenting facts that piss off leftists doesn't make you so) and as a victim of sexual abuse as a child he's far from being a pedophilia apologist.

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Just now, SaggerTwinkLover said:

You clearly don't know much about Milo then... He's not a homophobe (pssst he's gay and married to a man), he's not alt-right (presenting facts that piss off leftists doesn't make you so) and as a victim of sexual abuse as a child he's far from being a pedophilia apologist.

It's honestly been quite hard to figure out who he is. I've done a bunch of research and honestly all I've found are vague article that state he's "said a variety of homophobic, alt-right, islam-ophobic and anti-Semitism statements and has condoned pedophilia." And so on, as well as that he was a victim of child sexual abuse, has just married a man, and claims to be part Jewish sometimes. The thing is, he's still an alt-right troll who makes repugnant hateful statements and isn't going to get you anywhere in trying to get rid the sometimes equally hateful and repulsive radical "feminists" who you're railing against.

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The way he delivers his points can be viewed as somewhat polarizing but you can't argue the facts he presents in his arguments. Also, if you're looking at the mainstream media for the research on him, they're the ones that ended his career at Breitbart for twisting his words when he spoke about pedophilia.

Regardless, he's one of the few that are fighting for the protection of gay rights as the leftist movement and governments shift to making Muslims their darlings. If it offends you to be fighting against people that oppress women, treat women worse than dogs, mutilate the genitalia of young girls in order to keep them pure, and throw gays off of roofs after raping them; then maybe Milo isn't the problem...

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Perhaps admins should close this discussion. It seems that the less I know about the political opinions of people here, the better. I have worked for lgbti rights for decades, lately in a global context, also together with many feminists and muslims, some of whom I can call friends. U.S.A. seem to be politically so isolated these days and no wonder.

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19 minutes ago, Krister said:

Perhaps admins should close this discussion. It seems that the less I know about the political opinions of people here, the better. I have worked for lgbti rights for decades, lately in a global context, also together with many feminists and muslims, some of whom I can call friends. U.S.A. seem to be politically so isolated these days and no wonder.

I second this.

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1 hour ago, Krister said:

Perhaps admins should close this discussion. It seems that the less I know about the political opinions of people here, the better. I have worked for lgbti rights for decades, lately in a global context, also together with many feminists and muslims, some of whom I can call friends. U.S.A. seem to be politically so isolated these days and no wonder.

Yes please run away from intellectual debate/discussion/discord on the very subject you brought forward.

Too bad and somewhat typical I suppose.

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3 hours ago, Krister said:

Perhaps admins should close this discussion. It seems that the less I know about the political opinions of people here, the better. I have worked for lgbti rights for decades, lately in a global context, also together with many feminists and muslims, some of whom I can call friends. U.S.A. seem to be politically so isolated these days and no wonder.

As your wish.... 

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