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My question is to everyone who is into guys, but mainly guys who are strictly homosexual (if neither of this fits you but you want to share, do so).

So I'm 18, a twink, but somewhat hairy. My problem is that I'm really really annoyed by body hair, I don't have any problems with those who are very hairy or into hairy guys it's just a huge turn off for me. I don't find guys with hair sexually attractive and neither I like that I have body hair. Originally humans had much more hair because that kept our body warm and protected from mechanical impacts however to this day both of this are done by clothing. I can say I'm somewhat ashamed by my body hair (because I hate it so so much). I'm interested in anyone's opinion but as I'm gay I would be most interested in other gays' opinions. Do you like yourself and others hairy or not and anything which you wanna ad.

PS.: If you comment please write down your sexuality, because I'm interested if there's a difference between gays and bis in this matter. 

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Hey @Vikkin, I am also turned off by body hair when it’s on the stomach, back, butt, chest and shoulders.  I don’t mind body hair on the arms and legs which I find somewhat sexy and a slight turn on.  I don’t like facial hair unless it is well trimmed and maintained and not shaggy. For example, I find Arabic guys look really good with light facial hair that works with their looks.  But beyond that, I have never found facial or body hair to be attractive.  I have some but I also find this unattractive and if I had the money, would go through with laser hair removal.  I know a couple of guy who have said, the more and shaggier the hair, the better.  

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Hey. I am gay and I have no rule concerning if I like the hairs. I think that hairs can be really nice, but it needs to be taken cared, like a nice haircut. A nice fresh trimmed beard or trimmed pubic hairs can be so hot, and it can be the same for all the other part of the body. And I think, like you, that hairs on the shoulder and the back are a bit too much, but chest hair can be damn sexy, and even more if it is trimmed and taken care of.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Vikkin said:

My question is to everyone who is into guys, but mainly guys who are strictly homosexual (if neither of this fits you but you want to share, do so).

So I'm 18, a twink, but somewhat hairy. My problem is that I'm really really annoyed by body hair, I don't have any problems with those who are very hairy or into hairy guys it's just a huge turn off for me. I don't find guys with hair sexually attractive and neither I like that I have body hair. Originally humans had much more hair because that kept our body warm and protected from mechanical impacts however to this day both of this are done by clothing. I can say I'm somewhat ashamed by my body hair (because I hate it so so much). I'm interested in anyone's opinion but as I'm gay I would be most interested in other gays' opinions. Do you like yourself and others hairy or not and anything which you wanna ad.

PS.: If you comment please write down your sexuality, because I'm interested if there's a difference between gays and bis in this matter. 

So chop it all off then? Or do you have a confidence issue with changing your appearance in this way, even though it's what you want?

I'm a little confused tbh. Your question is redundant; you must be aware that most men and women today prefer themselves and their attraction relatively hairless? Or are you asking why men and women today prefer to look like they did before they had pubic hair? I've read your post 5 times, and I can't see what you're getting at? :)

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Choping it off would take hours that's my problem, otherwise I would have done it long ago. I'm just simply interested the opinion of people here, and somewhat was interested if we can see a difference of the preference of gays and bis.

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6 hours ago, Vikkin said:

Choping it off would take hours that's my problem, otherwise I would have done it long ago. I'm just simply interested the opinion of people here, and somewhat was interested if we can see a difference of the preference of gays and bis.

So you won't spend 'hours' to do something that will stop you from feeling ashamed of yourself? Do you refuse to spend an hour getting your hair cut too? Refuse to shower? Refuse to eat? Where do you draw the line?

The opinion of people here won't differ much from out there. Only that there may be a few that have a thing for hair, when they really just have low self-esteem and choose to pick which lesser desirable qualities they will settle for in a person. Although perhaps not always.

There's no such thing as Bisexual, people confuse the romantic attractions they have for women as sexual attractions. They are not the same thing. So there can be no difference in what people prefer hair-wise.

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@SBJBnot sure where the bisexual remark came from but hu?

If I can be sexually and romantically attracted to guys and girls (I am) , if bisexual isn't a thing. What is it then lol? 

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Personally anyway I prefer less hair. I'm not particularly a hairy person but will do my chest from time to time, same with armpits and 'down below' more frequently. Don't like facial hair much either. 

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3 minutes ago, TheOther1 said:

@SBJBnot sure where the bisexual remark came from but hu?

If I can be sexually and romantically attracted to guys and girls (I am) , if bisexual isn't a thing. What is it then lol? 

The bisexual remark was in response to the OP question; is there a difference between what gays and bis like?

It depends on what you see the difference as being between those two types of attractions, or if you see one at all? What if there were no name for bisexual, what then? What if there were no name for Santa? What if law-enforcement officers were called either police or pigs, but terrorists were only ever called terrorists? Anything with a name must exist, and anything without a name can not exist. How can we talk about something that has no name and vice versa?

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24 minutes ago, SBJB said:

So you won't spend 'hours' to do something that will stop you from feeling ashamed of yourself? Do you refuse to spend an hour getting your hair cut too? Refuse to shower? Refuse to eat? Where do you draw the line?

The opinion of people here won't differ much from out there. Only that there may be a few that have a thing for hair, when they really just have low self-esteem and choose to pick which lesser desirable qualities they will settle for in a person. Although perhaps not always.

There's no such thing as Bisexual, people confuse the romantic attractions they have for women as sexual attractions. They are not the same thing. So there can be no difference.

Yeh @SBJB, I’m still unclear about what left field that “no such thing as bisexual” comment came out of.  There is no preface and it’s mostly and unfounded argument in your comment.  You simply make a statement without anything to back up your argument or to relate that argument to.  To me, the “no such thing” comment is as if you were stating that bisexuality is a myth and doesn’t exist.  You then back up your argument with an incomplete and unreasoned argument.  Also, @Vikkin was simply stating that on many occasions (as I know many Bisexual people) that there are some obvious, and less obvious, differences in likes and dislikes between those people who identify as gat and those who identify as bisexual.  Your “no such” comment is totally unrelated to the comment made by Vikkin in his post about the differences. 

As for Your comment @Vikkin, if you have 5at much body or facial hair, more often than not, most barber shops, or salons, will be able to shave your hair at a much faster, and more efficient rate, than what you could do at home.  Now, if you are turned off by your own body hair and others, then you can always look into laser hair removal which is very effective and relatively pain free.  I would cut down on your personal grooming time and  save yourself a lot of money in the process.  But, that is only what I would do if I were in your position.  Since I have very slow growing body and facial hair, I don’t have to shave or from very often and I enjoy getting a haircut as a fresh haircut makes you look fresh and handsome. 

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2 minutes ago, Admiralolsen said:

Yeh @SBJB, I’m still unclear about what left field that “no such thing as bisexual” comment came out of.  There is no preface and it’s mostly and unfounded argument in your comment.  You simply make a statement without anything to back up your argument or to relate that argument to.  To me, the “no such thing” comment is as if you were stating that bisexuality is a myth and doesn’t exist.  You then back up your argument with an incomplete and unreasoned argument.  Also, @Vikkin was simply stating that on many occasions (as I know many Bisexual people) that there are some obvious, and less obvious, differences in likes and dislikes between those people who identify as gat and those who identify as bisexual.  Your “no such” comment is totally unrelated to the comment made by Vikkin in his post about the differences. 

As for Your comment @Vikkin, if you have 5at much body or facial hair, more often than not, most barber shops, or salons, will be able to shave your hair at a much faster, and more efficient rate, than what you could do at home.  Now, if you are turned off by your own body hair and others, then you can always look into laser hair removal which is very effective and relatively pain free.  I would cut down on your personal grooming time and  save yourself a lot of money in the process.  But, that is only what I would do if I were in your position.  Since I have very slow growing body and facial hair, I don’t have to shave or from very often and I enjoy getting a haircut as a fresh haircut makes you look fresh and handsome. 

As I tried, and evidently failed to clear up above; the OP wants to know the differences between what gay and bisexual guys like, hair-wise. It's an unusual question, in that it wouldn't make any difference to most people what someone prefers, regardless of their sexuality. So why is the OP asking? The only relevance would usually be what they prefer in a man vs a woman. I can't understand where the OP is coming from, or what he's really trying to find out, this is evident thus far as he isn't being very clear (no offence OP).

Furthermore, it's my belief that there is no such thing as bisexual. So if OP wants to gleam something from the fact that one group may prefer something more than another do, then he would be basing it on a trend in sexuality as apposed to a trend on where people are regarding how self-aware they are with their sexuality. It's like me researching if a store has more elderly people vs younger people shopping there, but I only conduct research on a Friday morning when all the young people are potentially at work. The results would be inaccurate.

I can absolutely back-up my argument. But I was asked a question with not a lot to go on, and I prefer to avoid it looking like I'm attacking the site admin. I was also reluctant to jump straight into giving any answers, people learn far more about themselves when they are asked questions and allowed to find out on their own. Separate to all of that, what planet do you actually live on for you to think that I would actually need to give any evidence whatsoever that there is no such thing as bisexuality? I say this because, NO ONE HAS ANY EVIDENCE THAT IT DOES EXIST. But typically, because it's a main-stream way of thinking, anyone that challenges it must prove why, apparently. Isn't this how it went down when someone first suggested the world wasn't flat?

Even if I have gone way off subject by talking about bisexuals (hopefully I've explained clearly enough that I haven't, with it being mentioned in the first post of the OP). But even if I have, why would it bother you so much? Does someone going off-topic spark something that big inside of you? Or is it more to do with the subject of 'does bisexuality exist' threatening you somehow?

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Let’s start here @SBJB

First, This was Vikkin’s original post and his first comment.  

“PS.: If you comment please write down your sexuality, because I'm interested if there's a difference between gays and bis in this matter.” 

I do not see anything that states Vikkin wants to know neither what bisexuality is not do I see anything in the first part of Vikkin’s query that would require this comment in any way:

“There's no such thing as Bisexual, people confuse the romantic attractions they have for women as sexual attractions. They are not the same thing. So there can be no difference in what people prefer hair-wise.”

Second, this is what Vikkin responded with when he posted again:

I'm just simply interested the opinion of people here, and somewhat was interested if we can see a difference of the preference of gays and bis.”

I have read this statement several times and in no way, shape, or form that this comment listed below even is part of the actual conversation that Vikkin was stating.  

“There's no such thing as Bisexual, people confuse the romantic attractions they have for women as sexual attractions. They are not the same thing. So there can be no difference in what people prefer hair-wise.”

Vikkin didn’t not ask for your opinion on what bisexual means nor did he inquire as to the true meaning, your meaning, that you have so inappropriately interjected into the conversation.  He simply wanted to see if bisexual people had a different preference for hair over gay people.  Next time, read the full question and keep unnecessary comments or interjections to yourself and stick to the main topic at hand next time.  

Respectfully, Admiral_olsen

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11 minutes ago, Dillon said:

 I wax 

 Just a question for you @Dillon, How badly does waxing hurt the first time and does it get easier as you do it more often? I have thought about waxing but it looks mildly painful

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35 minutes ago, Admiralolsen said:

 Just a question for you @Dillon, How badly does waxing hurt the first time and does it get easier as you do it more often? I have thought about waxing but it looks mildly painful

Eh Ive been through worse. And yea it gets better and you don't have to do it as much because you are pulling the hair root out as well. The trick is the the way you pull it off and applying  the waxx

 

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Just now, Dillon said:

Eh Ive been through worse. And yea it gets better and you don't have to do it as much because you are pulling the hair root out as well. The trick is the the way you pull it off and applying  the waxx

 

Thank you for the information.  Is there anyplace you would recommend that might be here in Colorado or any suggestions on how to find the best place for waxing. 

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13 minutes ago, Admiralolsen said:

Let’s start here @SBJB

First, This was Vikkin’s original post and his first comment.  

“PS.: If you comment please write down your sexuality, because I'm interested if there's a difference between gays and bis in this matter.” 

I do not see anything that states Vikkin wants to know neither what bisexuality is not do I see anything in the first part of Vikkin’s query that would require this comment in any way:

“There's no such thing as Bisexual, people confuse the romantic attractions they have for women as sexual attractions. They are not the same thing. So there can be no difference in what people prefer hair-wise.”

Second, this is what Vikkin responded with when he posted again:

I'm just simply interested the opinion of people here, and somewhat was interested if we can see a difference of the preference of gays and bis.”

I have read this statement several times and in no way, shape, or form that this comment listed below even is part of the actual conversation that Vikkin was stating.  

“There's no such thing as Bisexual, people confuse the romantic attractions they have for women as sexual attractions. They are not the same thing. So there can be no difference in what people prefer hair-wise.”

Vikkin didn’t not ask for your opinion on what bisexual means nor did he inquire as to the true meaning, your meaning, that you have so inappropriately interjected into the conversation.  He simply wanted to see if bisexual people had a different preference for hair over gay people.  Next time, read the full question and keep unnecessary comments or interjections to yourself and stick to the main topic at hand next time.  

Respectfully, Admiral_olsen

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As you can see, I did from the start offer my opinion on hair. I didn't mention bisexuals. But the OP responded with a follow-up question, this is when I stated my belief on bisexuality.

I understand why you feel I have taken the subject off track. This isn't actually the case. If you can imagine for a minute that bisexuality doesn't exist, and that all bisexuals are actually just gay. I know you don't think that, but from my point of view that's what I see. So when someone wants to compare one group to another, but I feel both groups are the same thing, I can't really just pretend can I? If you were playing a card game and you had to guess which hand held the 10 of Diamonds, you'd guess. But if you knew the deck was fixed and there is no 10 of Diamonds, you're not just going to go along with it are you?

The fact that the OP has a very specific interest in differences between gays and bisexuals, does by its very nature require me to offer my opinion that there is no difference between them, as that is what I believe. Of course there is a difference, as I mentioned above, but not the one the OP is thinking of. If you worked in an Apple store and a customer said they wanted an iPhone 10 but it must be a black one because they have a better battery life, you wouldn't just nod your head and get him a black one, you'd say; well okay sir, but there is no difference in colour for battery life, would you still like a black one? So when I see someone posting something on the basis that there is a difference between gays and bisexuals, other than one group just being more aware of themselves than the other, I'm going to point out the difference.

Note: There is no such thing as 'inappropriate'. It's a word people use to control and suppress other people.

What do you mean by next time keep comments etc to myself? Do I have a position to tell you what to do, or is it just yourself that has moral authority? I'd rather not be told what to post tbh, that way we can all express ourselves, you know?

Another point: (and I'm not trying to be facetious) you're question above to Dillon is also going away from the original subject, but I'm okay with it, because this is how conversations work.

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Idk about Colorado other than they have good weed, bro. Haha but try like ebay or Amazon or something.  They sell self waxing strips and do it our self kits. I kno the sex shops here in Florida.sells them. 😉😁

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SBJB always has to state his opinion on everything and he thinks his opinion is always right. If its not, then he will continue to fight and argue about it. The world doesnt revolve around you SBJB.

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2 minutes ago, tomass said:

SBJB always has to state his opinion on everything and he thinks his opinion is always right. If its not, then he will continue to fight and argue about it. The world doesnt revolve around you SBJB.

Yes, that is called freedom of expression, my friend. People fought and died for it, so it must have meant something for them to want to have it so bad.

Everyone always thinks they are right, unless they allow themselves to be proven otherwise. If you have a differing opinion, please do share. I'm always open-minded and ready to challenge what I know.

It doesn't revolve around me, until you make it all about me as apposed to discussing the subject in-hand. This is what you've just done.

So back on subject, please do share... want to add your opinion on hairy bodies, bisexuality, or maybe you have some top tips on waxing?

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3 minutes ago, SBJB said:

Yes, that is called freedom of expression, my friend. People fought and died for it, so it must have meant something for them to want to have it so bad.

Everyone always thinks they are right, unless they allow themselves to be proven otherwise. If you have a differing opinion, please do share. I'm always open-minded and ready to challenge what I know.

It doesn't revolve around me, until you make it all about me as apposed to discussing the subject in-hand. This is what you've just done.

So back on subject, please do share... want to add your opinion on hairy bodies, bisexuality, or maybe you have some top tips on waxing?

What difference does my opinion matter, or anyones, when all you are going to do is shoot it down anyway.

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Just now, tomass said:

What difference does my opinion matter, or anyones, when all you are going to do is shoot it down anyway.

Shoot it down? It's a discussion bro. There is no shooting it down as long as we can all contribute, which we can. Please share, after all you are an adored and respected member tomass. :)

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56 minutes ago, tomass said:

SBJB always has to state his opinion on everything and he thinks his opinion is always right. If its not, then he will continue to fight and argue about it. The world doesnt revolve around you SBJB.

That seems to be the general consensus with everyone that interacts with him.  Seems to be a classic case of narcissism with him.  But I’m gettingg off topic and he would see that as a problem but that’s the life of a self centered narcissist. 

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39 minutes ago, SBJB said:

Shoot it down? It's a discussion bro. There is no shooting it down as long as we can all contribute, which we can. Please share, after all you are an adored and respected member tomass. :)

To reiterate @tomass‘s point, your tendency to shoot down anyone’s opinion that does not completely and perfectly conforms with your beliefs @SBJB shows what a narcissist you are.  Like @Krister‘s article on feminism or this, you have interjected your opinions and made great and polite conversations turn into conversations that all center around you @SBJB.  And your rank with this site doesn’t put you in a higher plain of existence they everyone else on here.  

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