BLACK LIVES MATTER

[This34guy 57]

Since no else has brought this up.... if you live in America I am sure that you are aware of the protests that been going on. In response to the murder of George Floyd, a black man who’s death was untimely and unfair. Police brutality towards black people has reached its limits and now is the time to fight the racism that infects this country. This is not a new concept it has been a reoccurring problem and police brutality is NOT the only part of the equation. As racism in America is engraved and institutionalized in its systems and it’s going to take everyone to take it out ! #saytheirnames #blacklivesmatter 

 

I’m posting a few things to both educate you all on the situation and offer ways that you can help support the movement.

 

https://youtu.be/0ZU23d52NuU

• here is a video showcasing his murder and how it came to be. You can watch for yourself and see the horror that is done.

 

https://t.co/9V65v4YeCg

• this website showcases the black lives matter chapters across the country of which you can donate to help the cause

 

https://t.co/PA36Ce7OQM

• this is a link to where you can sign a petition for justice in the murder of George Floyd

 

https://t.co/sa2Dix1kA2

• this is just another website with more and other links to petitions numbers and information you can get on the situation and finding ways to help

 

I really suggest that you all take time to think about this and understand that this about all of us as it effects all of us not just blacks people. Educate yourself pls, be aware, and take action when needed and In the face of injustice.

 

 

 

[This34guy 57]

One more thing, for those that aren’t aware of the situation. What’s happening is truly severe and is a VERY BIG DEAL! This isn’t just another protesting movement that will die out in a month. Riots, protest, burning buildings, destroyed businesses, cops and civilians getting beat up. This is happening all across the nation and other protest even outside of America for our cause. The black community has had ENOUGH ! 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/05/30/us/minneapolis-floyd-protests.amp.html

[Vikkin 325]

I'm pretty sure everyone is aware of it, here in Europe we watching it like the US is on the edge of civil war. I get why the black community is deeply offended, the PO should go down for Involuntary manslaughter (if I understand american law properly). But the riots are just pathetic. Setting buildings on fire, looting stores, attacking people without them actually being involved is also unacceptable and they should be sent to prison for that. Many POs should be punished, run over a protester with a horse? Using pepper spray on the media? Yes they all should go down. I follow a guy who's a PO in Alaska, and he said that he despise POs that think they can get away with more just because of the uniform. Both sides should be punished, and a whole nation should be reformed but knowing the history of the US and the current political situation, not sure much will happen. It's no longer to good Obama administration days, but the butt hurt "he started it" child administration days. Let's hope something good comes out of this one. 

[TheOther1 1,481]

So I live in the UK and have heard about this but hadn't payed any attention to it (as I don't with most news) and I hadn't actually seen the video, I just watched the first video in the post now. 

 

It's ridiculous for the officer to have his knee on his neck like that, especially for such a long duration of time. I don't know the laws so not going to comment on what I think he should be charged with. 

But what I find possibly worse than his behaviour though is the publics. Setting things on fire, shops, ruining peoples businesses etc. Like Wtf? I don't understand what people think they can achieve by doing this. Racists are still going to be racists. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a large percentage of people who don't care about what's going on, and instead they just want to cause hell because they can basically get away with it in times like this. And no doubt there are police offers totally in the wrong at the same time as well, no doubt using too much force etc etc. 

What I don't understand though is why this has turned into a black lives thing, I suppose there is other stuff going on that I'm obviously not aware off. But there's obviously bad police out there, those who would use too much force and let's be real they have heard "you're hurting me, I can't breath" dozens of times before when someone under arrest is acting up. I'm not saying this is the case here, just to make that clear. But what suggests that this officer wasn't just a bad one and even if the guy was white he would have done the same? I'm sure there's more to it though than the few minute video I watched! 

 

I see a bad officer. A bunch of idiots in the public who should all be thrown in the same place as the officer. And no doubt many good members of the police having to deal with these idiots setting things on fire, who themselves will get frustrated at having to deal with such things and as a consequence could potentially be more violet and abuse their position in the future. 

Even having to deal with drunks in town on a Friday night must be a headache for the police, having to take abuse and so on. I'm not surprised from time to time you hear of them using too much force. 

Either way. Not sure what these protests/riots do...

 

[Lee249 19,336]

4 minutes ago, TheOther1 said:

So I live in the UK and have heard about this but hadn't payed any attention to it (as I don't with most news) and I hadn't actually seen the video, I just watched the first video in the post now. 

 

It's ridiculous for the officer to have his knee on his neck like that, especially for such a long duration of time. I don't know the laws so not going to comment on what I think he should be charged with. 

But what I find possibly worse than his behaviour though is the publics. Setting things on fire, shops, ruining peoples businesses etc. Like Wtf? I don't understand what people think they can achieve by doing this. Racists are still going to be racists. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a large percentage of people who don't care about what's going on, and instead they just want to cause hell because they can basically get away with it in times like this. And no doubt there are police offers totally in the wrong at the same time as well, no doubt using too much force etc etc. 

What I don't understand though is why this has turned into a black lives thing, I suppose there is other stuff going on that I'm obviously not aware off. But there's obviously bad police out there, those who would use too much force and let's be real they have heard "you're hurting me, I can't breath" dozens of times before when someone under arrest is acting up. I'm not saying this is the case here, just to make that clear. But what suggests that this officer wasn't just a bad one and even if the guy was white he would have done the same? I'm sure there's more to it though than the few minute video I watched! 

 

I see a bad officer. A bunch of idiots in the public who should all be thrown in the same place as the officer. And no doubt many good members of the police having to deal with these idiots setting things on fire, who themselves will get frustrated at having to deal with such things and as a consequence could potentially be more violet and abuse their position in the future. 

Even having to deal with drunks in town on a Friday night must be a headache for the police, having to take abuse and so on. I'm not surprised from time to time you hear of them using too much force. 

Either way. Not sure what these protests/riots do...

 

I didn't know much of this living in the UK too until i switched on the news & saw that mass protests had broken out across the US as a result of this poor UNARMED black guy treated like some hooligan.

Why are the US so rough when arresting people? They should have tolerance. Yes there is force required... But that is brutality.

 

[Pokemon 1,878]

5 hours ago, TheOther1 said:

So I live in the UK and have heard about this but hadn't payed any attention to it (as I don't with most news) and I hadn't actually seen the video, I just watched the first video in the post now. 

 

It's ridiculous for the officer to have his knee on his neck like that, especially for such a long duration of time. I don't know the laws so not going to comment on what I think he should be charged with. 

But what I find possibly worse than his behaviour though is the publics. Setting things on fire, shops, ruining peoples businesses etc. Like Wtf? I don't understand what people think they can achieve by doing this. Racists are still going to be racists. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a large percentage of people who don't care about what's going on, and instead they just want to cause hell because they can basically get away with it in times like this. And no doubt there are police offers totally in the wrong at the same time as well, no doubt using too much force etc etc. 

What I don't understand though is why this has turned into a black lives thing, I suppose there is other stuff going on that I'm obviously not aware off. But there's obviously bad police out there, those who would use too much force and let's be real they have heard "you're hurting me, I can't breath" dozens of times before when someone under arrest is acting up. I'm not saying this is the case here, just to make that clear. But what suggests that this officer wasn't just a bad one and even if the guy was white he would have done the same? I'm sure there's more to it though than the few minute video I watched! 

 

I see a bad officer. A bunch of idiots in the public who should all be thrown in the same place as the officer. And no doubt many good members of the police having to deal with these idiots setting things on fire, who themselves will get frustrated at having to deal with such things and as a consequence could potentially be more violet and abuse their position in the future. 

Even having to deal with drunks in town on a Friday night must be a headache for the police, having to take abuse and so on. I'm not surprised from time to time you hear of them using too much force. 

Either way. Not sure what these protests/riots do...

 

Black people are much more likely to be killed by cops here. He was killed because he was black. That's why it's a.black lives thing. If he was white, he wouldn't be chocked to death for writing a "fake check" that **** doesn't happen to us. He's sadly another in a much too long list of black people killed by cops for extremely minor crimes. 

[Vikkin 325]

42 minutes ago, Pokemon said:

Black people are much more likely to be killed by cops here. He was killed because he was black. That's why it's a.black lives thing. If he was white, he wouldn't be chocked to death for writing a "fake check" that **** doesn't happen to us. He's sadly another in a much too long list of black people killed by cops for extremely minor crimes. 

but that does not justify people to set buildings on fire, loot stores

[This34guy 57]

7 hours ago, Vikkin said:

I'm pretty sure everyone is aware of it, here in Europe we watching it like the US is on the edge of civil war. I get why the black community is deeply offended, the PO should go down for Involuntary manslaughter (if I understand american law properly). But the riots are just pathetic. Setting buildings on fire, looting stores, attacking people without them actually being involved is also unacceptable and they should be sent to prison for that. Many POs should be punished, run over a protester with a horse? Using pepper spray on the media? Yes they all should go down. I follow a guy who's a PO in Alaska, and he said that he despise POs that think they can get away with more just because of the uniform. Both sides should be punished, and a whole nation should be reformed but knowing the history of the US and the current political situation, not sure much will happen. It's no longer to good Obama administration days, but the butt hurt "he started it" child administration days. Let's hope something good comes out of this one. 

First of all let’s understand something and get things straight. Because you are clearly misinformed and miseducated about everything. And I don’t blame you Bc there is corruption in the media as they show only what they want and not the reality. 
the first store to get looted was the target in Minneapolis. This occurred after A PEACEFUL PROTEST (as we have a constitutional right to do) was turned into a violent one as cops arrived and began harassing and using tear gas and rubber bullets on the peaceful protesters protesting a freaking murder. And the target not only funds the Minnesota police department but they also denied service to those protesters who were trying to buy milk for their eyes. That’s why target was “looted” 

secondly understand that has been multiple evidence and video proof of many of the fires and broken property damage being instigated either by undercover cops acting as protesters or NON-BLACK protestors that are trying to get a kick out of the situation and don’t understand the severity of what their doing. I’m not saying every single riot and fire has started in this way but I will say an overwhelming amount has. In other words it’s not entirely attributable to the black people.
Also who is attacking people not involved? Where r u getting that from?

[Dillon 992]

I brought it up last night but I deleted it myself because a certain somebody wanted to attack me and say I was starting ****.... MFer doesn't even know me either.

 

But anyways, as a victim of police brutality myself, I didn't go out and riot and burn **** to the ground. That **** doesn't solve anything. You know how I dealt with it? I SUED THEIR ASSES TO THE GROUND and I got a million dollar settlement (less, after attorneys fees and whatnot) but anyways that's how you deal with S***ty ass scumbag cops. Sue their asses. THAT's how you make them accountable.

And don't tell me "But that costs money and people are poor" or whatever bullS***. I was poor when that **** happened... Most attorneys here will work Probona (Meaning they only get paid only if they win your case, and no money down is required usually and they just take a cut of your winnings)

Also, I don't understand burning buildings, breaking out windows, setting dumpsters on fire, etc etc etc...the buildings didn't do anything. Take your anger out at the source. I'm not on th cops side and I am not on the rioters side. What the cop did was fucked up by the way. But yeah anyways, I've said my peace.

[SaggersRhot 1,514]

Yes, I know how bad things are but there are two things I really don't understand about it. The Police said he was resisting arrest and that is why they were holding him down. What did he do though that they arrested him in the first place? I never heard. Now I can tell you why he died. The first video that came out only showed one cop with his knee on his neck.  It turs out there were security cameras on a building that caught what really went on. There were actually four cops holding him down. I think they put so much pressure on his chest that his lungs could not expand to get air and I think he was suffocated. That is terrible for anyone! The Police were fired and are going to be charged with murder so they will go to prison.

Why is everyone rioting in the streets across the country? What good will it do for anyone if people are setting stores on fire, looting stores and fighting with the Police. The Police that were involved are going to be charged with murder. Why do people think that setting buildings and cars on fire will do anything? Think about the owners of the stores and cars that are burning. You are only hurting the people who own the buildings and cars by burning there property and they had absolutely nothing to do with the Police activity. I understand people are mad but why hurt someone who had absolutely no knowledge of the arrest and no control over the Police. You should be mad! Don't go burning things and hurting the innocent people who worked hard to buy a store and cars. Protest yes but don't hurt other people.

[Emohotboy 803]

Ce soir des 17.00 il y a une manifestation policiere contre la brutalite policiere devant le quartier general du spvm ceux qui connaissent le coin. Soyez y! 

[Pokemon 1,878]

15 minutes ago, SaggersRhot said:

Yes, I know how bad things are but there are two things I really don't understand about it. The Police said he was resisting arrest and that is why they were holding him down. What did he do though that they arrested him in the first place? I never heard. Now I can tell you why he died. The first video that came out only showed one cop with his knee on his neck.  It turs out there were security cameras on a building that caught what really went on. There were actually four cops holding him down. I think they put so much pressure on his chest that his lungs could not expand to get air and I think he was suffocated. That is terrible for anyone! The Police were fired and are going to be charged with murder so they will go to prison.

Why is everyone rioting in the streets across the country? What good will it do for anyone if people are setting stores on fire, looting stores and fighting with the Police. The Police that were involved are going to be charged with murder. Why do people think that setting buildings and cars on fire will do anything? Think about the owners of the stores and cars that are burning. You are only hurting the people who own the buildings and cars by burning there property and they had absolutely nothing to do with the Police activity. I understand people are mad but why hurt someone who had absolutely no knowledge of the arrest and no control over the Police. You should be mad! Don't go burning things and hurting the innocent people who worked hard to buy a store and cars. Protest yes but don't hurt other people.

They claimed he wrote a fake check, that was the charge he died over

[This34guy 57]

44 minutes ago, Dillon said:

I brought it up last night but I deleted it myself because a certain somebody wanted to attack me and say I was starting ****.... MFer doesn't even know me either.

 

But anyways, as a victim of police brutality myself, I didn't go out and riot and burn **** to the ground. That **** doesn't solve anything. You know how I dealt with it? I SUED THEIR ASSES TO THE GROUND and I got a million dollar settlement (less, after attorneys fees and whatnot) but anyways that's how you deal with S***ty ass scumbag cops. Sue their asses. THAT's how you make them accountable.

And don't tell me "But that costs money and people are poor" or whatever bullS***. I was poor when that **** happened... Most attorneys here will work Probona (Meaning they only get paid only if they win your case, and no money down is required usually and they just take a cut of your winnings)

Also, I don't understand burning buildings, breaking out windows, setting dumpsters on fire, etc etc etc...the buildings didn't do anything. Take your anger out at the source. I'm not on th cops side and I am not on the rioters side. What the cop did was fucked up by the way. But yeah anyways, I've said my peace.

You also sound ignorant, sir you are white. This is the whole underlying factor and basis for all of this happening. If u don’t realize or want to admit that America is inherently racist and it’s racism is institutionalized and engrained in its systems (medical, socioeconomic, and criminal justice) it is not the same treatment in these areas. As if we haven’t tried. Breonna Taylor was killed in her own home Bc the police made a mistake what house they were going into. And there’s been no Justice for her in that manner either. The system is stacked against black ppl. So saying to just sue shows that u lack understanding of the grand scheme of what has been going on.
Also ur still alive George Floyd is not. 

[Dillon 992]

20 minutes ago, This34guy said:

You also sound ignorant, sir you are white. 

Yeah so okay burn down the entire country then. Just because I said sue to cops... I'm ignorant LOL

 

I was actually agreeing with you...but I'm IGNORANT and racist for agreeing.. okay.  That's why white people don't like people like you... LOOK at HOW YOU ACT., That is why. 

[This34guy 57]

22 minutes ago, Dillon said:

Yeah so okay burn down the entire country then. Just because I said sue to cops... I'm ignorant LOL

 

I was actually agreeing with you...but I'm IGNORANT and racist for agreeing.. okay.  That's why white people don't like people like you... LOOK at HOW YOU ACT., That is why. 

And this is why your ignorant lol. your taking things out of context and arguing things that were never argued in the first place. I can see you take offense to the word ignorant when all it means is a lack of education about a particular subject. Your statement of “just sue cops” shows that u lack the understanding that it’s not that easy for us to just do that there is so many obstacles and things in place that don’t allow us those sorts of advantages in American criminal justice system. That is why u are ignorant. I never said u were racist so idk where that came from lol.  And no where in your post did u make any notion of agreement to my post or argument. Lastly, did u not read my post about the riots and how it’s not black protestors doing all the burning vandalism . Bc u should 

so now explain to me if I’m wrong. About my point and what I’m saying 

[Dillon 992]

People who call others ignorant are the ignorant ones. I'm not going to argue with ya. 

[Dillon 992]

So I am ignorant because I say "The buildings didn't do anything" Cool bruh. Go burn everything down then. I hope they find you and arrest your ass for terrorism.

[Dillon 992]

Dr, Martin Luther King took on racism and marched in the streets without RIOTING, BURNING **** DOWN.. So you all can too. Peace out and good luck. All that nonsence makes you look really bad and dosn't help your cause at all.

[This34guy 57]

47 minutes ago, Dillon said:

Dr, Martin Luther King took on racism and marched in the streets without RIOTING, BURNING **** DOWN.. So you all can too. Peace out and good luck. All that nonsence makes you look really bad and dosn't help your cause at all.

Umm can u directly address what I said instead of trying to make ur points and arguments about things that i didn’t even mention ? Lol

 

but to address this right here. Yes he did march peacefully, and he made Some progress . And then they killed him. And America is still racist soooo? What’s ur point with bringing up Martin Luther King ? A little bit of progress for a problem like this is not enough it needs be solved in its entirety. Also before u come at black people for violent protest look up the Boston tea party and it’s historical significance. We have been peacefully protesting for YEARS and nothing has changed. Colin Kapernick for example 

[This34guy 57]

And again! IT IS NOT THE BLACK PEOPLE BURNING THINGS DOWN AND INSTIGATING THE VIOLENCE AND VANDALISM IN MANY OF THESE SCENARIOS AND PROTESTS. That’s not what we want either. 

[SaggersRhot 1,514]

5 hours ago, This34guy said:

And again! IT IS NOT THE BLACK PEOPLE BURNING THINGS DOWN AND INSTIGATING THE VIOLENCE AND VANDALISM IN MANY OF THESE SCENARIOS AND PROTESTS. That’s not what we want either. 

You are right. I'm white and it is mostly white people doing the most damage now. There are black people rioting too but when I turn on TV most of the people you see acting like idiot's behind the camera are white. There are certainly black people involed so it is not a 100% white person riot. What I think is that all Americans should be mad about the Police acting this way. The Police take a oath to " Protect and Serve" and they need to do the job they applied for with no preference for race, gender, sexual orientation, wealth and so on. The fact that Police actions caused a person to die is the only part that should matter. What color the Police are and what color the victim are should not play any part. I'm white and I always was taught to respect others and treat them as you want to be treated.

I personally have never treated anyone differently if they were white or black. Do I ever fight or argue with people? Yes, everyone will not agree on everything all the time and that is normal. If I'm arguing with someone it's for a reason but what color the person doesn't mean anything to me.

If you are black, can I ask your opinion? Forget about black and white, the Police were fired and charged with murder but what would the people rioting want to stop this violence? The fact is yes, a guy died and the killers were caught and charged. Now the Justice system will work. What can people do to stop the violence?

What I think is the people rioting are all trouble makers, it doesn't matter if they are white or black. If you are burning buildings and looting you are a criminal and should be treated as such.

Everyone no matter white or black has the right to peacefull protest! What you do NOT have the right to do is burn buildings, cars and run wild in the streets! They are all low life trouble makers and followers rioting. People are taking advantage of a bad situation to get away with this. ANYONE who burns, loots and fights is a criminal! Any they should be arrested and charged as such. If you are white or black and carry on like a criminal you should be treated as a criminal because there is NO ACCEPTABLE EXCUSE for rioting the way they are. All Americans have the right to PEACEFUL protest! This is certainly NOT peaceful protest! This must STOP!!!

[Vikkin 325]

You might be right, black people aren't the ones raiding the city, but I don't see them doing anything against that.
2016, Honk Kong protest, 1.5 million protester, 25k PO, no looting nor people hurt
2019, London protest, 1 million protester, zero looting,
2019, Prague protest, 300k protester, still no damage to property
2020, US riots, nation-wide,  at least one dead, hundreds injured, damage to public and private property is probably in the billions now

[TheOther1 1,481]

Just saw a video on Instagram where there's hundreds of people sat along what I assume is a very busy road (it's like 4 lanes road, I don't know the state). But they are chanting 'this is a peaceful protest' and 'black lives matter' and then apparently the police used tear gas and told them they can't protest there or something. 

 

I really disagree with protests though that cause inconvenience to others. I was with Flameboard a few December's ago in London. And right outside of Westminster there was a protest, black slavery or something. To begin with they were out of the way on the grass, but then ended up in the middle of a 4 way intersection. So for what must have been almost 2 hours they were causing gridlock all around one of the busiest places in London. What a great way to piss people off. We spoke to a bus driver who was trying to take the bus back to the depot, so he could go home. He was black and he had nothing good to say about the protestors. Just such a nuisance. All the emergency services would be suffering aswell because of the traffic. 

[Pokemon 1,878]

2 hours ago, TheOther1 said:

Just saw a video on Instagram where there's hundreds of people sat along what I assume is a very busy road (it's like 4 lanes road, I don't know the state). But they are chanting 'this is a peaceful protest' and 'black lives matter' and then apparently the police used tear gas and told them they can't protest there or something. 

 

I really disagree with protests though that cause inconvenience to others. I was with Flameboard a few December's ago in London. And right outside of Westminster there was a protest, black slavery or something. To begin with they were out of the way on the grass, but then ended up in the middle of a 4 way intersection. So for what must have been almost 2 hours they were causing gridlock all around one of the busiest places in London. What a great way to piss people off. We spoke to a bus driver who was trying to take the bus back to the depot, so he could go home. He was black and he had nothing good to say about the protestors. Just such a nuisance. All the emergency services would be suffering aswell because of the traffic. 

Sorry people bringing attention to racism is a minor inconvenience to you, but you'll never experience racism so its really easy for you to say that. 

There's no way to protest that doesn't inconvenience at least one person

[Pokemon 1,878]

 

12 hours ago, SaggersRhot said:

You are right. I'm white and it is mostly white people doing the most damage now. There are black people rioting too but when I turn on TV most of the people you see acting like idiot's behind the camera are white. There are certainly black people involed so it is not a 100% white person riot. What I think is that all Americans should be mad about the Police acting this way. The Police take a oath to " Protect and Serve" and they need to do the job they applied for with no preference for race, gender, sexual orientation, wealth and so on. The fact that Police actions caused a person to die is the only part that should matter. What color the Police are and what color the victim are should not play any part. I'm white and I always was taught to respect others and treat them as you want to be treated.

I personally have never treated anyone differently if they were white or black. Do I ever fight or argue with people? Yes, everyone will not agree on everything all the time and that is normal. If I'm arguing with someone it's for a reason but what color the person doesn't mean anything to me.

If you are black, can I ask your opinion? Forget about black and white, the Police were fired and charged with murder but what would the people rioting want to stop this violence? The fact is yes, a guy died and the killers were caught and charged. Now the Justice system will work. What can people do to stop the violence?

What I think is the people rioting are all trouble makers, it doesn't matter if they are white or black. If you are burning buildings and looting you are a criminal and should be treated as such.

Everyone no matter white or black has the right to peacefull protest! What you do NOT have the right to do is burn buildings, cars and run wild in the streets! They are all low life trouble makers and followers rioting. People are taking advantage of a bad situation to get away with this. ANYONE who burns, loots and fights is a criminal! Any they should be arrested and charged as such. If you are white or black and carry on like a criminal you should be treated as a criminal because there is NO ACCEPTABLE EXCUSE for rioting the way they are. All Americans have the right to PEACEFUL protest! This is certainly NOT peaceful protest! This must STOP!!!

"The race of the person killed shouldn't matter" yes it ******* does because it's black people getting killed for the slightest crimes, not white people smh. Before anyone goes "but the riots are bad", I'm not talking about riots I'm talking about why they happened