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Hey man,

I read from your profile that you're 13yo. Every single person lives and builds his or her sexuality in a personal way, and many people pass through an "exploration" phase when their sexuality is not so clear to them. This may consist of an istant doubt for someone, or of many years of confusion for others. I'm 18 and I'm starting now to understand what's going on in my brain :S so take your time to understand who you're attracted to. Maybe you are straight and you're just temporarily physically interested in guys; or maybe you are exploring other aspects of your sexuality you hadn't considered before. I know this doesn't help much but I can't tell you whether you're gay or not, primarly because I don't know you well, and secondly because there might be no answer yet.

So the point actually is what torsion said (yeah I'm realizing my post might be pretty much a waste of time) plus the "don't rush things" advice I tried to give you.

Ok, I probably like to complicate things. Just live as you feel and don't care about being judged, if you go with a guy that's ok, if you wanna stay with a girl, that's ok too. Don't be anxious to categorize (do you say that in english?) your sexuality. That's why I love the "I don't like labels" option on Sw profiles

Keep an open mind, cultivate interests and love all the way, these for me are the secrets to be happy

Flute for 6 years now I'd love to play the cello too but I don't have time for that...

Yeah Rekhel a saggers orchestra would be awesome haha

Tonight the sky is all clear and dark just wonderful. With a few falling stars, too, and a slow, refreshing wind. Around 28-30°C anyway. Sunny and hot all day.

If there is going to be a wide discussion on gay marriages I suggest to create a new topic. I think one already existed actually.

Anyway a reply to Fabik's post, even if UBCsagger was faster than me. Nothing against you, man, I don't want you to think I'm not respectful to your ideas.

First, your first point isn't clear to me. In my opinion "I want to be able to marry my boyfriend" looks like a declaration of love, that's to say "I want to make our relationship official and in some way sacred in front of the law. I don't see any attempt of imitating or "admiring" heterosexuality. I please ask you to consider the sexuality itself a different thing from the rights people have because of it.

I don't see your second point as a reason for not allowing gay marriage. I remember you, as UBCsagger did, that we are talking about allowing them, not making them compulsory. And again, as he said there are tons of burocratical, economic and legal reasons for getting married. For example if your partner is very ill and visits to the hospitals are restricted to the familiars by the LAW, then if you're not married you are not allowed to be with your life-long love for his or her last minutes of life. That was an example, please don't consider this one as the only reason.

And what's the problem if gay people want to get married and straight people don't? I personally don't find it incoherent nor a valid reason not to allow gay marriage.

Finally, tradition. Not so many years ago it was considered against tradition if a black man married a white woman or viceversa. It is the SAME thing. Except for the fact that we are talking about sexuality and not skin colour. This also counts in many other cases.

Your third point. I believe this is wrong. First, you are making me think that allowing gay marriage in some way takes away some of the importance given to marriage, going towards a degeneration of it. I firmly disagree with this as gay marriages are IDENTICAL to straight marriages except for the sex of the people involved. We are not talking about more than 2 people, or animals. I could actually have been offended that you consider allowing gay marriage on the way of allowing marriages with cats. No offence to all the cats registered on the site. I got your point but I think it's totally wrong.

Maybe this answer wasn't necessary 'cause UBCsagger actually said what I thought, but I had started writing this so I had to post it

I tried to change your mind trying to demonstrate that your argumentations weren't good. If I didnt succed, please tell me so that I can try again, I'd love to demonstrate you that there's nothing bad about gay marriages

And thank you for your stats, torsion. That explains quite a lot. Not to consider all the countries were homosexuality is punished with death.

First

Thank you Fabik for your contribution, this can make me explain this better.

The insults I was talking about do not consist in telling "gay" or similar to somebody. I consider that a description, even if said with derision (of course I don't like it, but I AM gay, so what if they just remember me). I'm talking about more heavy insults like all the stereotypes we all already know about gays, such as way of clothing, infidelity, etc. The insult is not "haha, you're gay", it is "haha, you're weak/different from us/mentally ill/effeminate/ridiculous/WRONG BECAUSE you are gay". Hope that's clear now.

The killing thing was to remark that there is a crime called in italian "prodding to suicide". They are now trying to understand if someone brought this boy to the point of committing suicide. It is a crime which is equiparated to murder if the victim is less than 14 yo. So he may actually have been killed. But of course that was a metaphore.

Yeah you are right, I shouldn't have said I hate those people. That was only a strong reaction. But let me say I don't respect their behaviour and their ideas. That's also my opinion about the gay marriages thing. I strongly agree with gay marriages and adoptions, because they would make our society closer to giving everyone the same rights. But that's another topic.

The last thing I wanted to talk about is that you are not convinced that his homosexuality was his only reason to kill himself. I honestly don't know, but I am sure that could be true. If he is, sorry, was a weak, or maybe if he believed himself that being gay is wrong, isn't it our society's fault anyway? It is indeed! He is a victim, no matter of what reasons he had to kill himself. And we know for sure that his homosexuality was if not the only, one of the main reasons he had. That's sad and scary.

I hope that was more clear now.

You

Hey guys,

Sorry to add unpleasant things to this great site but I needed to share this.

Six days ago, here in Rome, a 14 years old boy killed himself, jumping from the fifth floor of the building he lived in. He left a letter for his parents and friends, apologizing for his decision and explaining his reasons. He liked boys and didn't know how to live with this. He didn't know how to say it to his parents or friends. He wasn't strong enough to bare the insults, the discrimination and the jokes directed to him by the whole society.

It wasn't suicide. He was killed. He was killed by millions of narrow-minded people. People still inspired by values that belong to a remote past of our society, still unable to accept the differences of our society. I hate this people. But I am a better person than them, so I won't kill anyone, instead of what they did to a boy whose "fault" was to love. Love.

And I am scared. I am deeply scared by all of this. I can just hope this is not gonna happen again, but I know it is.

Sorry guys to bother you but I believe this was important to be shared.

It is indeed!

Now wearing my new pair of striped jules boxerbriefs and some bb shorts... sagging of course

Drop crotch pants. They are like marmite. You can either love them or hate them. But I hate marmite

Fall or spring?

Museum - I mostly don't like zoos.. if you want to see a living animal, just go where it lives, or turn on the tv.

Philosophy or Engineering?

I deeply hope you're talking about centigrades. It's still august.

Style

Just a quick reply. Just stop killing people and destroying things, please. Is it that hard? Sorry for being tough.

These last days were HOT. It is over midnight and the temperature is about 30°C. Today it was around 35. Last week it went up to 40-42 °C. No clouds. Just this mega-tanning lamp up in the sky. Omg.

This is italy compared to europe... I have to agree with most scenes!

Yeah, great topic!

Well...

Italy means pizza (true), pasta (true) and Berlusconi (please no, stop saying that, most italians hate him!)...

Italians have a funny accent (yeah, I admit that)...

All italians are good at cooking (I'd like it was like that!)...

All Italians are lazy. This is definitely true :S

All Italians like fashion and shopping (not sure... I do )

Italy = mafia (unfortunately this is true in different ways all over italy)

I sometimes wear briefs, love sagging so you can see skin under the sides lol

I love seeing other boys wearing briefs and sagging that low. Personally I usually don't sag very low when I wear briefs, so if I want to sag low I prefer boxerbriefs. But sagging is hot anyway whatever you wear

Yes they are ! It's the first thing I learnt about New York at school when I was a little boy : "There are huge skyscrapers in New York".

That! When I was a kid I actually thought that ny was the only city with skyscrapers lol

Wow, I wish I could do the same as you! I think it's awesome!

I'm from Rome, but I don't know many nice nightclubs I could suggest you. I think that you may find some gay clubs near Rome's gay street (which is impressively small compared to the other countries I think) that is right in front of the Colosseum. I've never been in those clubs as I haven't come out as gay yet ( :S ) but they should be nice... and if they aren't, you can just go out and have a walk in central rome, which is pretty nice

I'm sure I saw some websites that may help you, but I can't remember them, sorry

Rome is full of cultural and historical stuff, so if you like them you'll find what you want.

Cant help much with Venice and Pisa, cause I've been there when I was a child, so I just remember some monuments and churches and buildings etc... but Im sure you'll find something of your interest.

A friend of mine lives in Pescara, which is very nice I think. I think they have a nice nightlife there too, maybe more quiet compared to rome but they know how to have fun

Sorry I wrote so much!

Enjoy your travel

Age: 16

Gay Straight or Bi: Gay

Race: European (?)

Hometown: Rome, Italy

Grade: year 12

Clothing

What kind of underwear do you wear: boxerbriefs

What brand do you wear: many

Do you wear a jockstrap for anything: no

What do you wear to swim: just board shorts

Do you ever freeball? sometimes

What kind of socks to you wear (above or below the ankle): both, usually above in winter, below in summer

Body

Are you slim, average, or "bigger": slim

Do you have any body hair: quite hairy legs, not much on chest or arms (but it'll probably grow)

Do you have any facial hair: some, begins to spread (not only on the chin anymore!)

Do you shave have any of your body or facial hair: Trim, only facial hair

Do you trim or shave your pubes: no

Below the Belt

When was the last time you had a boner: 20 minutes ago, actually

Do you have one now: getting one

Do you masterbate: Yes

When: it depends, on average 3 times per week, usually in the evening if it's in the middle of the week, in the morning in the weekend

Where: On my bed, in the bathroom, on the couch if I'm alone, anywhere I can!

How: Usually standard technique but I like to try new and quite weird positions or... movements

What is you favorite way to jerk off: It really depends on my mood

What do you wear to jerk off: usually I start shirtless and sagging pretty low, then strip naked

How do you clean up: washing myself, usually I jerk off on me

Have you every masterbated analy: tried once or twice

Fun with Boys or Girls

Have you ever jerked in front of another boy: no

If not would you: yes

Have you ever jerked in front of a girl: no

If not would you: no

Have you ever masterbated another boy: no

If not would you: oh yes!

Have you ever fingered a girl: no

If not would you: no

Have you ever had oral sex with a boy: unfortunately no

Did you give or recive:

If not would you: yes!!

Have you ever had oral sex with a girl: no

Did you give or recive:

If not would you:

(If you answer yes to any of these next questions go on to the next part)

Have you ever had sex with another boy: no

Were you top or bottom:

Did you enjoy it:

If not would you: yess

Have you ever had sex with a girl: no

Did you enjoy it:

If not would you: nah, it would be weird and without passion or feelings - in a word, it would be bad :S

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And last but not least

Did this Survey make you horny:blushing:: Yeah

Name: Gianluca

Age: 16

Height: 175cm I think

Weight: 68 kg

Style: I change a lot, don't have a favourite one

Sexuality: Gay

Hobbies: Music, knowing the world!

Location: Rome, Italy