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Something that gives you a level of sexual gratification, is a fetish. If you're unsure if it's a fetish, then it is a fetish.

Why is liking feet a fetish, whereas liking women's breasts isn't? I call bull ****!

Aha, great thread! Presumably this isn't because viewers are using proxies!?

Assuming not, it's quite interesting actually. We assume that middle easteners don't have the same level of interest in sexual things (including sagging). I have been learning recently that this really isn't the case. To put it another way; talking about sex doesn't make you want it anymore, you just do it in secret.

I've experimented in the past with changing my country of origin on YouTube, you'd be surprised what you can find from other cultures. Things you may not have thought they would upload. It's a shame I don't speak other languages, but you can Google translate the odd word into Arabic or something ... kaboom.

Why can't the viewers see location, age and gender demographics on YouTube videos anymore? We used to be able to. Why doesn't it concern anyone that we can't?

You didn't get lucky, sir. You simply left the UK (aka police state); within the aforementioned everything is illegal/immoral and nothing is without consequence (eg monetary fine). When you were getting 'lucky', you'll have also noticed a lack of CCTV down every street corner. Their government didn't read your emails (to protect the rest of the population from terrorism, of course). Don't be alarmed! Outside of the UK this is relatively normal. But you're back now, so nanny will take care of you. Stick the BBC on and listen to the 'issues'. Good day.

16 hours ago, Lee249 said:

Does it really matter?  straight, bi, gay, we're all here because we share one fact.... Sagging. 

I think it does matter, yes. If they are other than what they say or believe they are, they are suppressed. That is a bad thing. Suppression is a bad thing. Suppression is a bad bad thing. 

2 hours ago, Pokemon said:

being on a fetish site looking at dude's underwear

The most telling statement in this thread. Is anyone on this site really straight?!

*I'm sure it's possible someone may be.

Package

Killing Grandma for her money or having everyone think you did

I assumed the posts stating ballet as being categorically girly were joking?

If not then we shouldn't judge. We shouldn't judge someone for liking ballet, and we shouldn't judge someone who judges someone for liking ballet.

Everyone acts with the best of intentions, and everyone should be allowed an opinion and to express it whatever it may be. If Martin Luther King had been born in these times, we'd never have heard his message for equality because he'd be locked up for insighting terrorism. 

We shouldn't teach people that it is OK to like ballet. We should teach people to be open minded, that is most important thing that can be taught. Anyone who thinks ballet has to be girly etc, is just acting on what they've been taught.

Don't judge, understand!

Goodbye

Car or Pogo Stick

Funny how fashion changes over time. I learned the other day that when high-heels were first invented, it was men not women that wore them.

15 hours ago, Admiralolsen said:

And your point

Helicopter Parenting

22 hours ago, TS4219 said:

I hate pranks, but in the grand scheme of things, it IS just water, AND he has a great sag.

As far as the acid thing... Pretty stupid to blame this guy or this prank for the acid thing... If he were to use a squirt gun, would we blame him if a "copycat" used a real gun? No.

Agreed, it has got F**** all to do with acid attacks. Separate to that, I would regard him as an ignorant **** with no respect for anyone.

12 hours ago, sexysaggerjt said:

turns out they got into a fight and mikey deleted a lot of their shared videos but they made up and if you go to bryce hall and mikey barone's separate channels, they have a lot of hot videos together. they claim to be straight but are either extremely comfortable more than usual for the common boy or bi

Ya, for sure they're gay. Are they from Texas or something? I think that's where Taylor Holder and all of his absolutely gay friends (with benefits) are from?

The funny thing is that most of their fans are teenage girls who have that faint glimmer of hope that some day they might marry Taylor, Harry Style or whoever else. Except little do they know.

13 hours ago, Admiralolsen said:

I probably would let them start around 13/14 like I did.  I would let them discover how low they wanted to go and wether a situation is acceptable for sagging their pants.  I would never let them sag at formal events or places where sagging would look wrong or tacky. 

I counted that you use the word 'I' three times there.

Well, as far as I know, compared to most other western countries, they have always been popular over there?!

I think a lot more guys would wear side-less shirts, if it were seen as a more cool thing to do. It feels great, natural.

20 hours ago, saggin said:

Okay, what are you talking about? Your comment said that gay guys are basically effeminate and flamboyant by nature and that the "straight" world doesn't accept that.

Also, have you ever seen what male ballet dancers do, if you want hyper-masculinity look no further! We mainly jump really high and carry girls around. The gender roles are pretty strong and pretty straight.

No, that isn't what I said, it's what you heard, and that says something about you. I can't break it down anymore than that. Literally, try reading it again upside down, it may allow you to come at it from a different angle.

There is nothing to say that anyone can't like anything they want, of course. But alongside freedom of expression comes something more dominant. It's called 'social acceptance'. You may think that you know to what extent this plays a part in your life, but most likely you don't. Think much, much deeper.

I have seen what ballet dancers can do. It's a shame that arguably one of the most demanding, talented and artistic dances is mostly seen as something that only women should enjoy.

It isn't relevant whether or not ballet is a masculine dance, it is considered by the masses as a girly/gay thing, so that's what it is, until it changes in the future.

The answer to your first post is really already there, in the fact that you asked it in the first place.

Edit: Just re-read your first post. The only thing in your 'interests' that doesn't 'relate' to the rest in the list is the sagging.

I did once try to start a thread here about the reasons behind why people sag. Not surprisingly, it got no where. It isn't a fashion statement, not at its core anyway. I think it may be more to do with sexual expression. I don't just say that because sagging is about showing underwear, which is kinda sexual in any case. But if you look at the people that sag; their age, gender and sexual orientation (not the one they tell you they are, the real one). It seems deep.

17 hours ago, Krister said:

You really believe being gay has anything to do with being 'effeminate', or that truly straight boys cannot be effeminate? Gays and straight, masculine or not, can like ballet or be hairdressers. Odd pseudofreudian prejudices.
 

 

You've misunderstood me, intentionally. Conquer your fears and you will see.

On 25/05/2017 at 9:33 AM, saggin said:

I've always felt like a bit of an odd duck.

My interests have never seemed to have any relation to each other. Said interests include Sagging, Classic films, Opera, Musical Theatre, Hairdressing, Sewing, Art, and Ballet.

The most important I would say is ballet, as this is my biggest passion in life, I sleep, eat, live and breathe it. However, I don't think I dress like the typical dancer, you don't often see me in warm, comfy clothes that are more about function than style. Oh no, I like to wear snapbacks, sagging skinny jeans, stylish hoodies and a bomber jacket of whatever weight the weather demands.

So a question has been rolling around my head for a while. "I can't be the only person here who likes to sag but has interests that don't fit the stereotypes that quite often go along with it."

So I ask you, what are you into?

My answer would be that you are split between two worlds, you want to be part of each, one is gay and one is a straight one (of a sort).

We live in a straight world. As such no where is entirely or predominantly anything other than straight. Social conformity tells you what you should be straight, but buried in your subconscious mind is the want to live the gay/effeminate life the way it is depicted in society, after all that is what you identify with (hence the ballet etc).

Of course, this is only one of two reasons you do this. The other is that your personality (which is gender neutral for everyone) finds these 'hobbies' appealing. 

Special point: This is true for even the most suppressed homosexuals. Those whom their whole lives are consumed with denying to themselves and others that they are gay, they are uncontrollably as camp as can be but stop at nothing to resist it and convince everyone they are straight, including the wife and three kids. Yet, their occupation is hairdresser!? It must outlet somewhere you see.

2:20 and 4:00

On 12/04/2017 at 11:26 PM, Vikkin said:

Development of sexuality is NOT conditional, it will kick in at a certain age, what ever you do (actually it isn't fully true, because in 50's it happened around 14, now it happens around 12). Koreans don't love their leader, but if they say otherwise, they will be executed (Kim I-don't-know-what-the-F****-is-his-name even killed his army leaders for yawning during his speech). Researches are made, that's what it's based on, saying that these still not true is like the toxic fog tail of planes nonsense. Yes I do get effected by that, because they are screwing up their own life, and their will be no second try. I'm not saying that any kind of sexually activity is bad under 18, but at the age of 12 it is. Let's say from the age of 15 it's kind of okayish. Being sexually active in such a young age DO distort someones' personality, and till some point it can be cured by psychotherapy, but not everything. 

I'm not saying the stages of sexual development don't exist. I'm asking why sexual activity would cause issues? You make it sound like it's that screen your computer gets when it's installing a significant update - 'Do not turn off the computer during this update or damage will be done', whereas in reality the stages of sexual development (including stage 2 at 12 years old) can be downloaded and installed in the background whilst you school, play and have sex.

Do you realise that when the age of consent laws were first brought in, it wasn't because children shouldn't be having sex but because poorer parents were pimping out their children to strangers? It was felt that children could not consent to sex for money, just as they could not be expected to choose between education and work at such a young age. It was nothing to do with whether or not they should have sex. Nowadays the law has been completely distorted and used not for the purpose which it was originally intended.

North Koreans do love their leader, they idolise him. But because you are from western society, you can't comprehend that he might not be the be guy that are media depict him to be. That isn't to say that he isn't. Don't judge their culture by the standards of your own, who are we to tell them how they must live? Democracy isn't for everyone. But let's not get of track here.

If you look through this channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/NotJustTWO/videos) there are hours and hours of videos where they are just talking to cam. Occasionally they start jumping off the bed etc, so there are many sags to be seen. But as I say, there is a lot to search though.

On 13/04/2017 at 10:50 PM, Lee249 said:

Wedgies mean nothing sexual... Well for the most part. It's just a bunch of dudes having good times. One of those moments when you think, what the f*ck lets do it  

For the overwhelming majority of the time, they are sexual. I'm surprised that for a member of a site like this, you aren't aware of that. Do you have straight friends whom you wedgie under the pretense of it being 'innocent banter'?

Are you asking if we would stop sagging so we could go to war instead or would we stop sagging if we would be sent to jail or similar if we didn't?

I do like them.

Aren't wedgies just an excuse to get sexual with someone, but you can't because they might call you gay? Always struck me as odd at school, you could be called gay for the slightest little thing but when boys started wedgieing each other, that was completely ok?